ib5 gearbox from a 1.8 diesel escort
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ib5 gearbox from a 1.8 diesel escort
anybody know if this will fit an rs turbo? as i have just baught a recon one for £100 delivered. and forgot to ask about the splines and size of input shaft. i am now worried if wont fit my clutch and or flywheel!! oops
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if its out out of the later van like a v reg van then no it wont as the splines are bigger was told they run the bigger bearings too
as when i turbo'd my mk6 van i had to use the s2 friction plate and the diesal pressure plate and bearing,which is working really well at the min
as when i turbo'd my mk6 van i had to use the s2 friction plate and the diesal pressure plate and bearing,which is working really well at the min
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thanks for the quick replys.
i have an lsd that can go in at a l8er date, if i can be bothered. but i have just broke 3 boxes one after the other, and am now fed up!! so i baught this as it comes with 1 years unlimited millage garunte!!!! there gonna reget that lol!!!
i have an lsd that can go in at a l8er date, if i can be bothered. but i have just broke 3 boxes one after the other, and am now fed up!! so i baught this as it comes with 1 years unlimited millage garunte!!!! there gonna reget that lol!!!
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if its out out of the later van like a v reg van then no it wont as the splines are bigger was told they run the bigger bearings too
as when i turbo'd my mk6 van i had to use the s2 friction plate and the diesal pressure plate and bearing,which is working really well at the min
as when i turbo'd my mk6 van i had to use the s2 friction plate and the diesal pressure plate and bearing,which is working really well at the min
althought it does annoy the shit out of me in traffic so a normal clutch would be nice, just depends how long it lasts?
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The box will have a larger main shaft and bearing also the cover plate will be different using a flat release bearing which makes it much nicer for gear changes. The AP four paddle clutch will still fit as its the same flywheel your using and will take around 230bhp.
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The box will have a larger main shaft and bearing also the cover plate will be different using a flat release bearing which makes it much nicer for gear changes. The AP four paddle clutch will still fit as its the same flywheel your using and will take around 230bhp.
gear box has turned up, starter in the right place, clutch fits!!! only problem is it has no release bearing fork fitted or speedo drive. it looks like the bc ones might fit so will see.
then we will see how long it lasts before it breaks!! lol
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here is the item number from e-bay if anyone is interested. 170478860290 . i made a best offer of £90 and one with £15 postage. and it came the next day aswell which is good.
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hi, ive just had one of these boxes and was wondering if anyone knew what year cluth kit i would have to get as the mk4 clutch release bearing has a smaller internal diameter and wont fit on the box which has a metal sleve where the bearing sits, so i need the larger bearing but dont know which year or where to get one the right size any help would be useful thanks
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hi, ive just had one of these boxes and was wondering if anyone knew what year cluth kit i would have to get as the mk4 clutch release bearing has a smaller internal diameter and wont fit on the box which has a metal sleve where the bearing sits, so i need the larger bearing but dont know which year or where to get one the right size any help would be useful thanks
also the rst clutch was fine and didnt need changing
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well it started as it would whine when the pedal is up and i let off the acc or attempt to slow down. drop the clutch it stopped. or give it a lil bit of gas n it would stop also. it is now also popping out of reverse, and bitty in 1st gear at say traffic lights. and might i add any help would be really really appreciated
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You could possibly use your paddle clutch with this box as its the same but the earlier type and im pretty sure it will fit.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/92-97-MK5-FORD...4#ht_550wt_911
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/92-97-MK5-FORD...4#ht_550wt_911
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You could possibly use your paddle clutch with this box as its the same but the earlier type and im pretty sure it will fit.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/92-97-MK5-FORD...4#ht_550wt_911
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/92-97-MK5-FORD...4#ht_550wt_911
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well it started as it would whine when the pedal is up and i let off the acc or attempt to slow down. drop the clutch it stopped. or give it a lil bit of gas n it would stop also. it is now also popping out of reverse, and bitty in 1st gear at say traffic lights. and might i add any help would be really really appreciated
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i put 1 of these on my cab a bit ago as i was sick of it getting through bc's and its much better, as already mentioned the gearing is a fair bit shorter and you loose some top end, but it gets ther quicker. My lsd bolted straight into it as well, i had the same problem with the release bearing as these diesel ib5's have a metal sleeve where the bearing goes on, if any1 needs the part number for the bearing then i can dig it out?
Only problem i came across with mine is that it hasnt got any reverse lights anymore as the reverse light connector is different, its an easy fix if you just want to swap the connector over if you cut a connector off a newer loom from something with an ib5 box.
Only problem i came across with mine is that it hasnt got any reverse lights anymore as the reverse light connector is different, its an easy fix if you just want to swap the connector over if you cut a connector off a newer loom from something with an ib5 box.
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Did your old clutch fit in the box ok?
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the bc top fits in, just baught a new speedodrive and roll pin from ford. apparently there colour coded and its the red one you need.
yes old clutch is fine im running a standard rst cover and ap 4 paddle. and the ib5 release bearing. i carnt fault it. feels much better on the road than a old 100k bc box.
yes old clutch is fine im running a standard rst cover and ap 4 paddle. and the ib5 release bearing. i carnt fault it. feels much better on the road than a old 100k bc box.
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Right, so essentially this box fitted straight on, every thing worked and you didn't have to adapt any thing? (other than fit your speedo drive).
Any one know if the internals from a sport KA box (hoping karlos G can fill me in) will go in this case along with an s2 LSD...... Changing the ratios...
Cheers
Rob,
Any one know if the internals from a sport KA box (hoping karlos G can fill me in) will go in this case along with an s2 LSD...... Changing the ratios...
Cheers
Rob,
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Right, so essentially this box fitted straight on, every thing worked and you didn't have to adapt any thing? (other than fit your speedo drive).
Any one know if the internals from a sport KA box (hoping karlos G can fill me in) will go in this case along with an s2 LSD...... Changing the ratios...
Cheers
Rob,
Any one know if the internals from a sport KA box (hoping karlos G can fill me in) will go in this case along with an s2 LSD...... Changing the ratios...
Cheers
Rob,
And yes an rst lsd diff bolt's in and just uses one of the ib5 diff bearings as its slightly bigger than the bc bearing.
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Right, so essentially this box fitted straight on, every thing worked and you didn't have to adapt any thing? (other than fit your speedo drive).
Any one know if the internals from a sport KA box (hoping karlos G can fill me in) will go in this case along with an s2 LSD...... Changing the ratios...
Cheers
Rob,
Any one know if the internals from a sport KA box (hoping karlos G can fill me in) will go in this case along with an s2 LSD...... Changing the ratios...
Cheers
Rob,
the car is driving very nice at the mo and the last thing i want to do is pull the box apart and in not feel like it did before when i put it back together again!! plus its still under garuntee for a while yet.
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Right, so essentially this box fitted straight on, every thing worked and you didn't have to adapt any thing? (other than fit your speedo drive).
Any one know if the internals from a sport KA box (hoping karlos G can fill me in) will go in this case along with an s2 LSD...... Changing the ratios...
Cheers
Rob,
Any one know if the internals from a sport KA box (hoping karlos G can fill me in) will go in this case along with an s2 LSD...... Changing the ratios...
Cheers
Rob,
Sport Ka ratio's are just like XR3i ones, nice and close! The 1.3 Ka is loooong like a diesel box......... but it's what you prefer really.
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Yeah as said they will fit, but you'll need to machine the casings to take the bigger bearings, or maybe use the stock BC bearings but then essentially what you have done is taken the stronger IB5 box and made it weak again, it's the bigger bearings and reinforced casings that give that little bit extra strength.
Sport Ka ratio's are just like XR3i ones, nice and close! The 1.3 Ka is loooong like a diesel box......... but it's what you prefer really.
Sport Ka ratio's are just like XR3i ones, nice and close! The 1.3 Ka is loooong like a diesel box......... but it's what you prefer really.
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Yeah as said they will fit, but you'll need to machine the casings to take the bigger bearings, or maybe use the stock BC bearings but then essentially what you have done is taken the stronger IB5 box and made it weak again, it's the bigger bearings and reinforced casings that give that little bit extra strength.
Sport Ka ratio's are just like XR3i ones, nice and close! The 1.3 Ka is loooong like a diesel box......... but it's what you prefer really.
Sport Ka ratio's are just like XR3i ones, nice and close! The 1.3 Ka is loooong like a diesel box......... but it's what you prefer really.
Rob,
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Actually the one in that link looks pretty good for the money, I take it this will go straight in using a new ib5 release bearing but how do I fit the LSD from my box?
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i rang them before i baught mine and they seam genuine, they have been trading for a long time. they said they replace synchros as well. and plus they give you a years garunte with unlimited milage. i even told them it was going in a rst and not an escort van and they said no problem. you also get a proper vat recipt as well form the company not just an ebay one.
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