Farmer Giles

Is this something that only a Ford dealer can do ?? I have been quoted the best part of £80 to do it as it is 3/4hr labour in "the book"

If not what other companies are likely to be able to do it, independent garages, alarm / audio places ??

Thanks

Martyn

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Take it to a dealer.

There are a few outside companies that can do it but they will charge you
about the same.

Matt Baxter

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what car is it?

RichieST

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3 to 4 hours!!!! More like no more than 5 minutes

Which car is it, and which key are you trying to program? Is it for the immobiliser or for remote locking?

Taz

I was going to post this today as well. I have a 2002 Ford Transit and have a fob from a friend who has bought a new one. Can I reprogramme it? I think it is only for the central locking.

Graham

manoj

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Programming new keys taken from http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/pats.htm

The system itself assumes that there are three keys programmed into PATS. One is a red key, the master, and two slave keys, which are black and will have a red dot. The red master key should be locked away in a safe place and only the black keys should be in daily use. If a key is lost, the red master key can be used to program a new key. The following sequence is noted in the vehicle handbook.

1. Obtain new key from main dealer ordered using the vehicle key number.

2. Insert red master key into ignition and turn to position II. When the red LED comes on switch off and remove the master key.

3. The LED goes off and then comes on for 2 seconds. PATS is now in programming mode for the next ten seconds.


4. Insert the new slave key. The LED will come on and go off to confirm that the key has been programmed. Switch off and remove the new key.


In the event that the red master key is lost, then a new one can be ordered using the vehicle key number. Be prepared to prove that you are the registered keeper of the vehicle because otherwise the main dealer should refuse. This master has to be programmed by a Main Dealer using WDS, which clears the PATS module memory and reassigns the new master. Once that is done, the old slave keys need to be reprogrammed as above.

Fault Finding
Although the red LED is used for the alarm and the PATS system, PATS has priority, and the LED can be used for fault diagnosis. The LED should always go out about three seconds after ignition on.

If there are less than three keys programmed into the PATS module the LED will stay on for one minute with the engine running, but if the LED flashes after that then careful attention should be paid because it may be a fault code.

The following checks can be made without WDS:

The engine does not start and LED remains off. 1. Check PATS system fuses
2. If alarm is fitted check if LED functions for alarm: if not check cigar lighter fuse (also used for LED)


3. If not go to main dealer

Engine does not start: LED flashes rapidly Leave ignition on until the LED starts to flash a 2 digit code: (sequence- pause-sequence) Check the following codes:

Code flashes:
1:3 Key code not received. Is key screened by other keys or objects? Try different key: if okay then first key is faulty.
If not go to main dealer

1:4 Partial code only received. Try again. If not okay use different key.
If not go to main dealer

1:5 Key not programmed into PATS. Program key as above using master

1:6 Faulty link between PATS module and EECV
Go to main dealer


If the LED illuminates for 4 seconds but the engine does not crank, PATS is working correctly and there is a fault elsewhere. Try starter solenoid or battery. If okay go to main dealer.

If the LED illuminates for 4 seconds and the engine cranks but does not start, PATS is working correctly and the fault lies elsewhere. Check the Fuel Cut-Off switch. If okay go to main dealer.

If none of the above checks resolves the problem then the system will need to be connected to WDS at a main dealer for a diagnostic check.

If the engine starts normally but the LED stays on, wait for one minute. The LED may then flash a code 2:1. This is showing a ‘fault’ that there are less than 3 keys programmed into PATS. One of more keys need to be programmed to stop this code.

Any other code needs referring to the Ford main dealer.

manoj

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I'm sure PumaBuild can re-program Ford Keys.. http://www.pumabuild.co.uk/diagnostic.htm

give them a call.. PHONE: +44 (0)121 356 2638

PumaBuild
Units 1 & 2 Howard Centre
Paper Mill End
Aldridge Road
Great Barr
Birmingham
B44 8NH
PHONE: +44 (0)121 356 2638

http://www.pumabuild.co.uk/

Farmer Giles

the 3/4hr was meant to be 0.75 hr or 45 mins but at £75/ hr + VAT it mounts up

Car is a 2001 Focus 1600 Zetec and it's the remote central locking on the main key..

The battery in the key went flat and by the time I replaced it it had lost its frequency or something..

Farmer Giles

Cheers for that. I don't have a red master key only the black key with the remote central locking on it.

southey23

Take it in to FORD i had to do for that myself

Matt Baxter

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try this mate

Farmer Giles

Genius, cheers mate

I'll try it out.

Thanks

angel24

Hope you got a good discount

Farmer Giles

Matt

your a star, that worked a treat. If I ever meet you for real I will buy you a beer...

BTW were did that info come from, just off the 'net or do you work for Ford and took a photo of it out of some secret manual ?? just curious...

RichieST

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All the info is in my mondeo's owners manual, so chances are it could be in yours for your focus??

Farmer Giles

Come on I am a bloke I never read the manual

Matt Baxter

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no probs mate

no i dont work for ford
all the info came from an autodata manual

James

can't believe they were gonna charge you that much!!